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The Talmud is, more or less, comparable to aggregating the writings of notable theologians over 1000+ years in any other Abrahamic religion.

So when Talmudchuds say “it says X in the Talmud, therefore Jews believe X!”, it’s like saying “Aquinas wrote X in the Summa, therefore all Christians believe X!”

Which is ridiculous, because even *Roman Catholics who love the theology of Aquinas* don’t know or endorse every obscure passage he wrote several hundred years ago! (E.g., following Aristotle, he didn’t believe fetuses have souls until 40/80 days into pregnancy.) Let alone lay Catholics or Christians from other denominations.

Using the logic of Talmudchuds, we could conclude, on the basis of weighty authority, that Protestants today secretly believe the papacy is the anti-Christ, and Catholics secretly believe Protestants are heretics. Therefore, Catholics and Protestants can’t coexist in the same country. (To be fair, supersperg sunlight-deficient Groypers who spread lies about Judaism probably also unironically believe this.)

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The Church Fathers is a good comparison.

Regarding footnote 3 see: https://scribalerror.substack.com/p/saving-one-jewish-life?utm_source=publication-search

Regarding footnote 7, I believe עכו"ם 'worshippers of stars and constellations' was usually insisted on by gentile censors of printed editions though it may have been originally invented by a Jew trying to tone down contemporary implications. Often these acts of censorship turns texts into gibberish, for example 'heretic' taken (sometimes, but not always, accurately) as a referent to Christians is changed to 'Saducee' and similar.

Great article. Berger is an excellent, candid and judicious, guide to these matters.

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