"the surname Dzhugashvili is not Georgian, but Ossetian ( Osset. Dzugaty , from dzug - “flock, herd”), which is only given the Georgian form: the phoneme “dz” in the dialect of South Ossetians is pronounced as “j”, the ending of Ossetian surnames "you" are replaced by the Georgian "shvili" (son) [1] . The surname Dzugaty-Dzugaev itself is widespread in Ossetia. Its representative is, for example, the Ossetian poet Georgy Dzugaev ."
Yes, interesting but i am not sure Stalin knew his ossetian background. Because it seems his great granfather is from southern ossetia. It is possible that there are ossetian/georgianized ossetian beside his great-grand father among his ancestors. But for now, we know only this.
"Little is known of the family of Besarion Jughashvili. His grandfather, Zaza Jughashvili (born c. 1780), was involved in the 1804 Mtiuleti rebellion against the Russian Empire, which had only annexed eastern Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) in 1801. Zaza was possibly of Ossetian background, with historians Simon Sebag Montefiore and Ronald Grigor Suny both suggesting he came from the village of Geri, near modern South Ossetia, though this claim can not be proven.[1][2][b] Zaza escaped the uprising and moved to Didi Lilo, a village about 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) away from the capital, Tiflis (now Tbilisi). He worked as a serf for Prince Badur Machabeli, tending to his vineyards. There he had a son, Vano, who in turn had two sons: Giorgi, and Besarion, who was likely born around 1850.[1][3] Vano died young, likely before he turned 50, while Giorgi worked as an innkeeper until he was killed by bandits.[3]"
Interesting article, although I think it’s worth mentioning that the Nazi notion that bolshevism is associated with Jewry really comes from their own experience with leftist insurgence and Marxism during the post-war period. Western Marxists and Trotskyites were a lot more Jewish than Leninists and Stalinists (see: https://substack.com/home/post/p-141631425 ). Also, I’m not sure if Hitler and some other Nazi officials really believed Stalin’s regime was Jewish (or Communist) in private.
> the Nazi notion that bolshevism is associated with Jewry really comes from their own experience with leftist insurgence and Marxism during the post-war period.
Hitler attended Kurt Eisner's funeral wearing a black armband to symbolize mourning for Eisner and was himself part of the Bavarian Soviet. The later adoption of slogans about "Jewish Bolshevism" was taken up for political reasons as Hitler saw how the Whites exiled from Russia used the label.
> Trotskyites were a lot more Jewish than Leninists and Stalinists
Nonsense. Until Stalin took full power, Trotsky's most bitter rivals were Zinoviev and Kamenev.
1) I'm surprised there was no mention of Solzenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together. What's your view? Or perhaps you're waiting for the full (official) English translation to be published -- this year according to the Solzenitsyn Center?
2) Do you plan on doing similar work at some point with regard to Jewish involvement in the CPUSA?
You have completely ignored the scholarship of Kevin MacDonald, Andrew Joyce, Thomas Dalton, Brenton Sanderson, Edmund Connolly, Tobias Langdon and Thomas Goodrich. No wonder. It is devastating to this tired apologia you're peddling.
Yes, but specifically his essays Lying About Judeo-Bolshevism and Is Anti-Semitism Dead? A Philosophical Consideration. One issue I take with MacDonald and Joyce is that they seem to have a blindspot regarding Christianity, which I regard as the original psych-op. Communism is simply a secular incarnation of Christian ethics. Wesley Lysander put together a very long chronicle of it some years ago.
Once again this liar completely misrepresents history and gaslights the 62 million lives genocided by psychopath jews in the russian(jewish) revolution. Disgusting, but your shitty articles arent going to work, people can simply look at the pictures of the first communist government, completely jewish, They can read books like "The wolf of the kremlin" where Lazar Kaganovich, a jewish mass murderer says quite clearly "Whatever is good for the Jews" Uncle Levick had said to him. "Follow only that line of reasoning".
Is there any specific part of the article which you disagree with? Its hard to debate or even have any form of argument when this narrative you have is really arbitrary and ignorant of the points mentioned here.
its not clear how accurate these statistics are, for example an ukrainian jew could have listed his nationality as either jewish or ukrainian. speaking of which, I'd have liked a more detailed comparison to wiltons allegations. you say "All one needs to do is compare this information to that given earlier" but couldn't have wilton done the same in reverse if he were here today?
Well not quite, because Wilton provided no evidence for any of his claims, only obviously biased personal testimony, whereas the information I review comes from the official records for the institutions of state and party as well as biographical information on their members. As time has passed, things have gotten much more transparent than they were in the days of the revolution. Otherwise, I've seen no evidence that self-misidentification was enough of a problem to skew the data for total party membership; do you have any?
Good read, guess we've all learned that Lativo-Bolshevism was the real enemy all along, at least if we apply the logic of anti-semites to reality.
Good work
Excellent and erudite article
Stalin's father was likely Ossetian. Result of his grandson's ydna test and etymology of his surname supported this hypotesis.
ydna
https://twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1572225641478754305?s=20&t=1u14ZfH9BjOUxob5KeIbWA
surname
"the surname Dzhugashvili is not Georgian, but Ossetian ( Osset. Dzugaty , from dzug - “flock, herd”), which is only given the Georgian form: the phoneme “dz” in the dialect of South Ossetians is pronounced as “j”, the ending of Ossetian surnames "you" are replaced by the Georgian "shvili" (son) [1] . The surname Dzugaty-Dzugaev itself is widespread in Ossetia. Its representative is, for example, the Ossetian poet Georgy Dzugaev ."
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B6%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8
Interesting, added a footnote (8)
Yes, interesting but i am not sure Stalin knew his ossetian background. Because it seems his great granfather is from southern ossetia. It is possible that there are ossetian/georgianized ossetian beside his great-grand father among his ancestors. But for now, we know only this.
"Little is known of the family of Besarion Jughashvili. His grandfather, Zaza Jughashvili (born c. 1780), was involved in the 1804 Mtiuleti rebellion against the Russian Empire, which had only annexed eastern Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) in 1801. Zaza was possibly of Ossetian background, with historians Simon Sebag Montefiore and Ronald Grigor Suny both suggesting he came from the village of Geri, near modern South Ossetia, though this claim can not be proven.[1][2][b] Zaza escaped the uprising and moved to Didi Lilo, a village about 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) away from the capital, Tiflis (now Tbilisi). He worked as a serf for Prince Badur Machabeli, tending to his vineyards. There he had a son, Vano, who in turn had two sons: Giorgi, and Besarion, who was likely born around 1850.[1][3] Vano died young, likely before he turned 50, while Giorgi worked as an innkeeper until he was killed by bandits.[3]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besarion_Jughashvili
Interesting article, although I think it’s worth mentioning that the Nazi notion that bolshevism is associated with Jewry really comes from their own experience with leftist insurgence and Marxism during the post-war period. Western Marxists and Trotskyites were a lot more Jewish than Leninists and Stalinists (see: https://substack.com/home/post/p-141631425 ). Also, I’m not sure if Hitler and some other Nazi officials really believed Stalin’s regime was Jewish (or Communist) in private.
> the Nazi notion that bolshevism is associated with Jewry really comes from their own experience with leftist insurgence and Marxism during the post-war period.
Hitler attended Kurt Eisner's funeral wearing a black armband to symbolize mourning for Eisner and was himself part of the Bavarian Soviet. The later adoption of slogans about "Jewish Bolshevism" was taken up for political reasons as Hitler saw how the Whites exiled from Russia used the label.
> Trotskyites were a lot more Jewish than Leninists and Stalinists
Nonsense. Until Stalin took full power, Trotsky's most bitter rivals were Zinoviev and Kamenev.
Fantastic article very informative, keep up the great work
Sent here via a post by Richard Hanania (https://substack.com/home/post/p-159911630). Two comments:
1) I'm surprised there was no mention of Solzenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together. What's your view? Or perhaps you're waiting for the full (official) English translation to be published -- this year according to the Solzenitsyn Center?
2) Do you plan on doing similar work at some point with regard to Jewish involvement in the CPUSA?
You have completely ignored the scholarship of Kevin MacDonald, Andrew Joyce, Thomas Dalton, Brenton Sanderson, Edmund Connolly, Tobias Langdon and Thomas Goodrich. No wonder. It is devastating to this tired apologia you're peddling.
This scholarship?
https://mischrev.substack.com/p/cofc-the-boasian-school-of-anthropology
I’m referring to Jewish bolshevism specifically. Please stay on topic. Joyce and Langdon have already put together an exhaustive takedown of Cofnas.
This Joyce?
https://mischrev.substack.com/p/on-the-jewishness-of-karl-marx
Yes, but specifically his essays Lying About Judeo-Bolshevism and Is Anti-Semitism Dead? A Philosophical Consideration. One issue I take with MacDonald and Joyce is that they seem to have a blindspot regarding Christianity, which I regard as the original psych-op. Communism is simply a secular incarnation of Christian ethics. Wesley Lysander put together a very long chronicle of it some years ago.
The Bolshevik revolutionaries under Yakov Yurovsky (100% jew) shot and bayoneted to death the Romanov family without any reason
I ain't reading all dat! Read smoloko.com
Once again this liar completely misrepresents history and gaslights the 62 million lives genocided by psychopath jews in the russian(jewish) revolution. Disgusting, but your shitty articles arent going to work, people can simply look at the pictures of the first communist government, completely jewish, They can read books like "The wolf of the kremlin" where Lazar Kaganovich, a jewish mass murderer says quite clearly "Whatever is good for the Jews" Uncle Levick had said to him. "Follow only that line of reasoning".
Why are you trying to cover up jewish crime?
Is there any specific part of the article which you disagree with? Its hard to debate or even have any form of argument when this narrative you have is really arbitrary and ignorant of the points mentioned here.
You just ignored the entire article and continued to beg the question. Either provide a decent rebuttal to his data or piss off
its not clear how accurate these statistics are, for example an ukrainian jew could have listed his nationality as either jewish or ukrainian. speaking of which, I'd have liked a more detailed comparison to wiltons allegations. you say "All one needs to do is compare this information to that given earlier" but couldn't have wilton done the same in reverse if he were here today?
Well not quite, because Wilton provided no evidence for any of his claims, only obviously biased personal testimony, whereas the information I review comes from the official records for the institutions of state and party as well as biographical information on their members. As time has passed, things have gotten much more transparent than they were in the days of the revolution. Otherwise, I've seen no evidence that self-misidentification was enough of a problem to skew the data for total party membership; do you have any?
10th congress politburo is 3/5 jewish in your table. I guess you ignored Rykov. Additionally kamenev may half russian.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo_of_the_10th_Congress_of_the_Russian_Communist_Party_(Bolsheviks)
Lenin was 1/4 Jewish and by the halacha, he was not a Jew. That’s not a Jew.